multiple categories

[worldobservers]

hi
multiple categories very handy and very powerful tools wish vivvo looking in to it in the next major upgrades.

regards

[sip]

Use TOPIC/TAGS and then modify your Category Template. This will allow same article being listed in multiple categories although article URL to article page will be same. We did a site like this for a client who wanted ability to show article in multiple categories.

[worldobservers]

Hi Sip

we working on it now but we have problem.

any custom category has the topic or tags params only display articles tagged that related to the topic or tags params.

any other non-tagged articles will not display on that custom category.


another thing why we need multi-categories.

on busy and large websites it is not practical at all using tags in order to cross categories.
so how could we remember all the tags names? also each time we posting an article we need to type the tag? what is this? the whole process doesn't make sense.

it is waist of time and so much make around.

it may be OK for tiny website who post may be 20 articles a day.

i thing vivvo did not take this step as yet because of the work involved " reconstruct the whole database", but in my opinion doing this now better than later.


regards

[sip]

Hint:
Keep Topic name same as Category Name
In that TOPIC Add a TAG with same Name as Category Name.

Easy to remember that at least. Then comes the case of modifying category template to filter data by the Tag Name ... Works fine no matter whether it is a small site or a site as busy as CNN/NY times and resolves your difficulty about remembering TAG Names.

Adding another overhead for anything which can be achieved right now isn't the right path as then busy websites will then complain that VIVVO is bringing the server to it's knees

[worldobservers]

Hi Sip

well. in my case i have one topic which i am using for all categories and than tags related to that topics.

different tag for each custom category template.

example of one custom category template:
<vte:param name="search_topic_id" value="103" />
<vte:param name="search_all_tag_ids" value="129" />

i already have the tags names same as the categories names , should i use the tag name in the params instead of the id number?

regards

[sip]

In the scheme of things that we did for client, we used only one category template. But then we had a TOPIC for each category with same name as category and then a TAG within the topic with same name.

Doing category template per category is a nightmare managing changes.

[worldobservers]

Hi Sip


it did not make sense to me from the beginning making template for each category.


this is one of the reason i am suggesting "multiple categories" as a solution.

what u saying is logic.

can u pls provide me with the param that contains both the topic and tag at the same time if this is what u mean.

OR

did u mean something like "<vte:param name="search_topic" value="{topic name in here same as category name lets say"sport"}" />"

than in the database a tag related to the topic "sport" named "sport" as well ???



pls correct me if i am wrong as this cross categories being for almost 2 weeks no success.





in regards of:
Adding another overhead for anything which can be achieved right now isn't the right path as then busy websites will then complain that VIVVO is bringing the server to it's knees

well, it should be than an option to turn multicategories off or on.

cross categories as it is now very un-professional, so much make around, so much waist of time, it is so complicated.
in my case 2 weeks of making around and still no solutions.

we do not need to edit this and edit that. it is just straight forward multiple categories.

regards

[zontech]

Hi worldobservers,

WordPress does a nice job of multi-categories - a few mouse clicks and you're motoring . . .

[sip]

@worldobservers:

This is what we did for the client (YMMV == Your Mileage May vary):

<vte:params>
<vte:param name="search_cid" value="{VIVVO_MODULES_TICKER_CATEGORIES}" />
<vte:param name="search_tag" value="{PAGE_TITLE}" />
<vte:param name="search_order" value="descending" />
<vte:param name="search_sort_by" value="{VIVVO_HOMEPAGE_ARTICLE_LIST_ORDER}" />
</vte:params>

Above is added just below:

<vte:box module="box_article_list" params = "{content_params}">

I am not a big fan of Wordpress when their thumbnail (based on timthumb which most theme developers use) plugin itself starts hitting mod_sec rules and then want the host to disable mod_secu for them and more so because:

http://secunia.com/community/advisor...arch=wordpress

[sip]

Originally Posted by worldobservers

Hi Sip

but the rest of the un-tagged articles still not there. therefore, we need to pull them out as well.

what did i miss in there?
regards

In our case, all articles are TAGGED.
That's why we did Topic Name = Category Name
and within the Topic we had one TAG = Catgeory Name.

That's why i did mention YMMV