v4?

[jhei21]

Does any one know when v4 is due out? I thought i read August somewhere. Also is there a list of new features in the next release?

Thanks

[boccio]

Its still covered in secrets :P

In next couple of days we'll launch a sub-forum for V4, with devblog on development progress. It is scheduled for late August, but since we didn't do a single release on schedule so far, I see no reason to break the habit :)

[boccio]

Here's a little treat. First time public, screenshot of v4 article management.

http://www.vivvo.net/img/VivvoCMS.png

[jhei21]

Thats great Boccio. Thanks for the update and sneak peak.

[pcoskat]

v4 looks cool.

Is it simply an 'under the hood' updgrade.

In other words will current users of vivvo and custom templates not have to worry about their current design and custom work 'breaking'?

[boccio]

Actually, v4 is not upgrade at all. It is fully re-designed system, with much more power than 3.5.

The sweet thing is you don't need to worry about upgrading from 3.5, it will go smooth. Of course, if you customized the code of 3.5, you will have to break a sweat to squeeze it in... expect that.

[pcoskat]

Will the old 3.5 templates work on v4?

BTW, didn't you all just come out with 3.5?

How often do you do upgrades/new systems?

After v4 will things 'settle' for awhile so that things like plug-ins can be developed?

ETA:

Ooooh, do I see TAGS????

Are those REAL tags???? Clickable TAGS?!?!

(I was just sitting here thinking I wasn't going to upgrade, but tags might persuade me...)(maybe)

[apocan]

I hope it will be released before october :)) so that I can upgrade my v3.5 freely :) otherwise it is unlikely :(

waiting for your great job...

[boccio]

Will the old 3.5 templates work on v4?
BTW, didn't you all just come out with 3.5?
How often do you do upgrades/new systems?
After v4 will things 'settle' for awhile so that things like plug-ins can be developed?

The 3.5 templates will be easily converted to 4.0. With no hassle whatsoever.

3.x branch was active for more than a year. With minor upgrades (3.25, 3.4, 3.5) that introduced some bug fixes and improvements, it is time to create new, modern version.

4.x branch will be much more powerful, stable, and flexible for customizations. After more than 2 years in News publishing CMS business we have clear picture what our community wants. And once we release 4.0, we will probably focus on additional services (plug-ins, modules, templates, etc.)



Ooooh, do I see TAGS????
Are those REAL tags???? Clickable TAGS?!?!

yep, you saw it right :)

[pcoskat]

Any chance for:

- Hidden categories

- Static Pages

- Multiple (unlimited) feed imports per category

- Admin defined default Image (per feed) for individual feeds

- Better CAPTCHA image on comments

- Admin defined additional fields on 'add new article' page

- More vBulletin integration (even though I'll still work on that 'work around' I promised)

- Easier category filtering in "Latest News" (would love to be able to assign categories the way we currently do with 'more news' )

- Ability to add javascript to individual articles via HTML editor

[apocan]

hey vivvo admins, these days we cant see all of you in this forum very much :) are you focused on V4 ? Hope to see it soon

[boccio]

We're focused on summer holidays :)

Greetings from Singapore :D

[apocan]

yes I learned that :D have a nice holiday :)

[Criticalmass24]

looks great guys i know i cant wait for it to come out.

[utvara]

Since templates have been mentioned, here is a short developers look into upcoming release.

There has been some fuss about 3.5 and full CSS approach to frontend. This feature was pushed forward mainly because of v4 and beyond. In an attempt to make transition as painless as possible we have first introduced CSS as primary design tool and moved customization from templates. This is very important since we plan to rock the template foundation in vivvo. Actually, we are going to remove it from your feet and put new ones in (hopefully without you noticing it :) ).

Now the scary part:
<vte:if test="{VIVVO_MODULES_MOST_POPULAR}">
<vte:box module="box_content_item_list">
<vte:params>
<vte:param name="search_sort_by" value="most_popular" />
<vte:param name="limit" value="5" />
<vte:param name="fields" value="title,SEfriendly" />
</vte:params>
<vte:template>
<div id="box_most_popular" class="box_right">
<div class="box_title"><h3><vte:value select="{LNG_MOST_POPULAR}" /></h3></div>
<div class="box_line">
<!-- -->
</div>
<div class="box_body">
<ul>
<vte:foreach item = "article" from = "{content_item_list}">
<li>
<a href="{article.get_href}">
<vte:value select="{article.get_title}" />
</a>
</li>
</vte:foreach>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
</vte:template>
</vte:box>
</vte:if>

This, as you might have guessed, is 'most popular' box written in vte (Vivvo Template Engine) language, mixed with a little bit of xhtml.

More on this after the weekend :D

Cheers, utvara
Vivvo CMS lead developer

[pcoskat]

So what does this all mean? Will the current 'display' of out sites be disrupted with an upgrade to v4?

[Micha]

No, as mentioned before, this wont affect on the look of your website.
After upgrade your site will look same as before the upgrade :)

[abenzev]

Question: Will the documentation for Vivvo 4 and the CSS change come out around the same time for us to catch up and learn the new engine, or will it be a "shout questions to the forum and solve them one by one"?

I for one am concerned that when I upgrade I will be able to continue to work within my websites on design and not just keep what I have already finished.
Avraham

[utvara]

Vivvo v4 will be shipped with compatibly template set that will produce same HTML as v3.5 branch. This means that your 3.5 css will fit it.

As for documentation, it will be done on time :) for release.